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upsticksI'm not very good at these reviewy things, partly because my organisational skills in writing are next to nothing, partly because I always want to write EVERYTHING I think about an episode - make it really comprehensive - and partly because my memory stinks, and I can't live!review cause I get caught up in the episode again too much, and the writing goes nowhere.
Did anyone else think, "ew... het"?
Gwen looked very pretty in her wedding dress, and I was genuinely saddened about all that money and hard-work, and through no fault of her own, she ended up suddenly having all this weight on her shoulders, and her back.
I hated the Jack/Gwen that was there. The 'Gwack', as people are calling it, was forced and took over far more of the story than it should. I can't see any chemistry with these two actors or people, so maybe you should *stop* writing them, Torchwood writers? Just give me my Jack/Ianto, and my occasional ultra-famous-actor story, and I will be happy. I'll even let you let Jack be angsty if you do that. WAIT, HE ALREADY IS.
That's another thing, this episode was full of missed opportunities.
Or rather, it wasn't :-\
There could have been some caring!Jack (aww, wedding!); worried!Jack (my team are getting married, eventually they're all gonna leave me); some wondering!Owen; Tosh was really underused (I thought, anyway), Ianto even more so (it really felt like he was "just a teaboy" here, even though he did stuff. The thing she did were more just like errandy stuff though. OH, I DON'T KNOW. I'M RUBBISH AT THESE, REMEMBER?)
The inconsistencies were there, as ever - I mean one episode we're getting full on Janto snoggage, the next, it looks like, to quote![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
indes_elfwine that Jack's "settled" for Ianto cos he can't get Gwen. By this time, I'm thinking he's a dick. In a bad way. Ianto loves Jack lots (or something like that) and he's there with him, like a puppy. All Jack can do is see Gwen and make me go all cringey.
A lot of those moments too: I knew the mother-in-law/monster thing (ew) would get confused, and that the Jack and Gwen and mirror scene was a monster. And I actually had to hide at that. JB must have had fun in the costume, but it was all a bit *cringe* for me. When Jack stole Gwen, and got too close, and then Ianto stole Jack, I cringed too. In fact, worse, I ACTUALLY HAD TO HIDE. I shudda loved the dancing, but I didn't.
Apparently, Ianto DJ'ed this ep. WHEN?
He also chose a new wedding dress for Gwen. And held it up to himself. That was cute :)
I'm interested in how things are gonna work out with this Ianto-Jack-Gwen thing. Maybe Jack will have to choose to save in the finalé? Maybe he'll eventually have to work out which one he wants? Maybe he'll travel through space and time with his two companions and wait, that's another show I'm thinking of...
Whatever the case, I'm afraid a fluffy happy slashy fangirl, and I'm with Martha: backing Jack/IANTO all the way.
ALSO, VIRGIN BIRTH/RELIGIOUS IMAGERY MUCH?
Jack/Ianto discussion
So BEAR WITH ME.
Did anyone else think, "ew... het"?
Gwen looked very pretty in her wedding dress, and I was genuinely saddened about all that money and hard-work, and through no fault of her own, she ended up suddenly having all this weight on her shoulders, and her back.
I hated the Jack/Gwen that was there. The 'Gwack', as people are calling it, was forced and took over far more of the story than it should. I can't see any chemistry with these two actors or people, so maybe you should *stop* writing them, Torchwood writers? Just give me my Jack/Ianto, and my occasional ultra-famous-actor story, and I will be happy. I'll even let you let Jack be angsty if you do that. WAIT, HE ALREADY IS.
That's another thing, this episode was full of missed opportunities.
Or rather, it wasn't :-\
There could have been some caring!Jack (aww, wedding!); worried!Jack (my team are getting married, eventually they're all gonna leave me); some wondering!Owen; Tosh was really underused (I thought, anyway), Ianto even more so (it really felt like he was "just a teaboy" here, even though he did stuff. The thing she did were more just like errandy stuff though. OH, I DON'T KNOW. I'M RUBBISH AT THESE, REMEMBER?)
The inconsistencies were there, as ever - I mean one episode we're getting full on Janto snoggage, the next, it looks like, to quote
indes_elfwine that Jack's "settled" for Ianto cos he can't get Gwen. By this time, I'm thinking he's a dick. In a bad way. Ianto loves Jack lots (or something like that) and he's there with him, like a puppy. All Jack can do is see Gwen and make me go all cringey.A lot of those moments too: I knew the mother-in-law/monster thing (ew) would get confused, and that the Jack and Gwen and mirror scene was a monster. And I actually had to hide at that. JB must have had fun in the costume, but it was all a bit *cringe* for me. When Jack stole Gwen, and got too close, and then Ianto stole Jack, I cringed too. In fact, worse, I ACTUALLY HAD TO HIDE. I shudda loved the dancing, but I didn't.
Apparently, Ianto DJ'ed this ep. WHEN?
He also chose a new wedding dress for Gwen. And held it up to himself. That was cute :)
I'm interested in how things are gonna work out with this Ianto-Jack-Gwen thing. Maybe Jack will have to choose to save in the finalé? Maybe he'll eventually have to work out which one he wants? Maybe he'll travel through space and time with his two companions and wait, that's another show I'm thinking of...
Whatever the case, I'm afraid a fluffy happy slashy fangirl, and I'm with Martha: backing Jack/IANTO all the way.
ALSO, VIRGIN BIRTH/RELIGIOUS IMAGERY MUCH?
Jack/Ianto discussion
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12/3/08 03:09 (UTC)People are not ready for the slash. This is why fandom is a secret ;P
Janto fix. I do not have enough of this 'fix'. Everything NEEDS MORE JANTO :D
I call it 'Gwack' to mock it, even though I agree, it's nasty. Last series, it was on BBC Three, late at night. This series, it's prime time, and it's on BBC Two. Change of channel means change of audience, and that means more Gwen/Jack. I am NOT happy, but if we want TW to stay on, we have to put up with it. *sigh*
I hope Jack will be better with Ianto as well, maybe he was more emo over his marriage than Gwen's? *hopes* Jack is the best kind of manwhore though, you have to agree.
BEST. PARTY. EVER. Hey, I'm up for it, 'cept I'd be a bit nervous about meeting LJ people in RL (I'd worry we'd have nothing to talk about) although it could be fun :)
Someone said something about het once: something like het was often full of bad characterisations, 'cos it was just about The Ship, and what the writer wanted. Becuase Slash is often not canon, it requires more to make us believe it - more realism, better characterisation, better writing overall. This is why het is more often than not, ew. (or seems to me since I've been in Fandom in general.) Woah, slash!meta, w00p.
hope that's cleared it up a bit :) Janto does rule, a lot. It is The Bestest. (and it's really taken over my mind recently :-S)